[Discuss] MS Buys GitHub

[Cy Schubert]

I didn't say who was going to win but the O/S as we see it will be 
replaced. (Though replaced may mean the same thing as no mainframes 
today. A few but irrelevant.) It started when Robert Watson wrote his 
PhD thesis and the PoC that gave birth to FreeBSD jails. Sun 
embellished the idea to create zones. Linux replied with LXC and 
containers. Multiple lightweight instances of an O/S stub, whether they 
be docker or some other technology, is the platform of the future. Red 
Hat has been pushing docker. Google has created kubernetes. Now Google 
is working on, not an O/S, but a stub that provides an ABI to 
applications. The API/ABI will most likely be some kind of Linuxy thing.

With Google's weight behind it will Red Hat be able to remain relevant 
over the long haul? Maybe this? https://cloud.google.com/container-optim
ized-os/

It will be interesting.

~cy

In message <CAM_o6DX_svUPrrcL0NCSM4avAT2RaxpyvHDRqUcC+3VDoCsG6Q at mail.gma
il.com>
, Craig Miller writes:
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> Cy,
>
> I agree, but it may not be Docker who wins the container wars.
>
> Google is busy porting crosini to ChromeOS, where they will allow "linux
> apps" to run under ChromeOS. They already have a container running Android
> on ChromeOS.
>
> But, yeah, containers are going to revolutionize deployment of apps (client
> and server apps).
>
> Craig...
>
> --=20
> IPv6 is the future!
> http://ipv6-net.blogspot.ca/
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:53 PM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert at cschubert.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The O/S is irrelevant today. The winner has been docker under
> > kubernetes. The best any other O/S can do is attempt to host Red Hat
> > Linux containers or carve out a niche for itself. I suspect that over
> > the next five, ten years for sure, the desktop will be no more and
> > server operating systems will be a stub running as a VM, kind of like
> > VM/CMS did.
> >
> > ~cy
> >
> > In message <525FB8C2-AEBD-4B2D-96DD-D73A5BE4BE81 at telus.net>, Peter
> > Willis write
> > s:
> > > There is a feeling that MS is easing out of the operating system
> > business.
> > >
> > > http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/29/news/companies/microsoft-
> > restructuring-window
> > > s/index.html
> > >
> > > It=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s a pattern seen before with Novell and IBM. =
> The return from
> > services is
> > >  much more lucrative.
> > >
> > > MS loses money on the OS side of the business. Especially now that most
> > opera
> > > ting systems are on handheld devices.
> > >
> > > P.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jun 4, 2018, at 10:13 PM, Darren Duncan <darren at darrenduncan.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm particularly interested in how Microsoft's crown jewel, .Net, and
> > sever
> > > al other projects, have become a well managed open-source project out i=
> n
> > the
> > > public sphere, both high quality and cross-platform.
> > > >
> > > > I say crown jewel because Microsoft's main hold on people is based on
> > peopl
> > > e writing software that traditionally only ran on their own operating
> > system,
> > >  whereas the foundation for all the new software that runs on Windows i=
> s
> > buil
> > > t on .Net which is open source and also runs on other operating systems=
> ,
> > so t
> > > he vendor lock-in is going away.
> > > >
> > > > See also https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/06/everyone-
> > complaining-about
> > > -microsoft-buying-github-needs-to-offer-a-better-solution/ .
> > > >
> > > > I have worked with .Net myself for the last several years, and it is
> > very e
> > > njoyable to use, so this foundation can compete on quality and features
> > while
> > >  also being open source and cross platform.
> > > >
> > > > -- Darren Duncan
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert at cschubert.com>
> > FreeBSD UNIX:  <cy at FreeBSD.org>   Web:  http://www.FreeBSD.org
> >
> >         The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
> >
> >
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-- 
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert at cschubert.com>
FreeBSD UNIX:  <cy at FreeBSD.org>   Web:  http://www.FreeBSD.org

	The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.