[Discuss] MS Buys GitHub

Fri Jun 8 11:43:12 PDT 2018

I suspected as much. What the rest of us calls the Instruction Set?
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Deryk Barker, Faculty Emeritus
Computer Science Department
Camosun College, Victoria BC

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From: Cy Schubert [Cy.Schubert at cschubert.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 8:27 PM
To: Deryk Barker (Honorary Colleague)
Cc: Cy Schubert; discuss at vlug.org
Subject: Re: [Discuss] MS Buys GitHub

Application Binary Interface.

~cy

In message <4E6AE5F528744E479C4F2AC326FFF840024809C49F at EX10MBX01.intra.c
amosun.
bc.ca>, "Deryk Barker (Honorary Colleague)" writes:
> What, pray, is an ABI?
>
> Sure not an Ankle-Brachial Index Test...
>
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> Deryk Barker, Faculty Emeritus
> Computer Science Department
> Camosun College, Victoria BC
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Discuss [discuss-bounces at vlug.org] on behalf of Cy Schubert [Cy.Schuber
> t at cschubert.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 6:34 PM
> To: Craig Miller
> Cc: discuss at vlug.org
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] MS Buys GitHub
>
> I didn't say who was going to win but the O/S as we see it will be
> replaced. (Though replaced may mean the same thing as no mainframes
> today. A few but irrelevant.) It started when Robert Watson wrote his
> PhD thesis and the PoC that gave birth to FreeBSD jails. Sun
> embellished the idea to create zones. Linux replied with LXC and
> containers. Multiple lightweight instances of an O/S stub, whether they
> be docker or some other technology, is the platform of the future. Red
> Hat has been pushing docker. Google has created kubernetes. Now Google
> is working on, not an O/S, but a stub that provides an ABI to
> applications. The API/ABI will most likely be some kind of Linuxy thing.
>
> With Google's weight behind it will Red Hat be able to remain relevant
> over the long haul? Maybe this? https://cloud.google.com/container-optim
> ized-os/
>
> It will be interesting.
>
> ~cy
>
> In message <CAM_o6DX_svUPrrcL0NCSM4avAT2RaxpyvHDRqUcC+3VDoCsG6Q at mail.gma
> il.com>
> , Craig Miller writes:
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> >
> > Cy,
> >
> > I agree, but it may not be Docker who wins the container wars.
> >
> > Google is busy porting crosini to ChromeOS, where they will allow "linux
> > apps" to run under ChromeOS. They already have a container running Android
> > on ChromeOS.
> >
> > But, yeah, containers are going to revolutionize deployment of apps (client
> > and server apps).
> >
> > Craig...
> >
> > --=20
> > IPv6 is the future!
> > http://ipv6-net.blogspot.ca/
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:53 PM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert at cschubert.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The O/S is irrelevant today. The winner has been docker under
> > > kubernetes. The best any other O/S can do is attempt to host Red Hat
> > > Linux containers or carve out a niche for itself. I suspect that over
> > > the next five, ten years for sure, the desktop will be no more and
> > > server operating systems will be a stub running as a VM, kind of like
> > > VM/CMS did.
> > >
> > > ~cy
> > >
> > > In message <525FB8C2-AEBD-4B2D-96DD-D73A5BE4BE81 at telus.net>, Peter
> > > Willis write
> > > s:
> > > > There is a feeling that MS is easing out of the operating system
> > > business.
> > > >
> > > > http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/29/news/companies/microsoft-
> > > restructuring-window
> > > > s/index.html
> > > >
> > > > It=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s a pattern seen before with Novell and IBM.
> =
> > The return from
> > > services is
> > > >  much more lucrative.
> > > >
> > > > MS loses money on the OS side of the business. Especially now that most
> > > opera
> > > > ting systems are on handheld devices.
> > > >
> > > > P.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Jun 4, 2018, at 10:13 PM, Darren Duncan <darren at darrenduncan.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm particularly interested in how Microsoft's crown jewel, .Net, and
> > > sever
> > > > al other projects, have become a well managed open-source project out i
> =
> > n
> > > the
> > > > public sphere, both high quality and cross-platform.
> > > > >
> > > > > I say crown jewel because Microsoft's main hold on people is based on
> > > peopl
> > > > e writing software that traditionally only ran on their own operating
> > > system,
> > > >  whereas the foundation for all the new software that runs on Windows i
> =
> > s
> > > buil
> > > > t on .Net which is open source and also runs on other operating systems
> =
> > ,
> > > so t
> > > > he vendor lock-in is going away.
> > > > >
> > > > > See also https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/06/everyone-
> > > complaining-about
> > > > -microsoft-buying-github-needs-to-offer-a-better-solution/ .
> > > > >
> > > > > I have worked with .Net myself for the last several years, and it is
> > > very e
> > > > njoyable to use, so this foundation can compete on quality and features
> > > while
> > > >  also being open source and cross platform.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Darren Duncan
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
> > > Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert at cschubert.com>
> > > FreeBSD UNIX:  <cy at FreeBSD.org>   Web:  http://www.FreeBSD.org
> > >
> > >         The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
> > >
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        The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.