[Discuss] sudo

[Craig Miller]

Bernie,

Since you are thinking of compiling Linux from source, have you 
considered Gentoo (which is compiled from source when you install a 
package)? And it is a non-systemd repo.

Craig...

On 4/4/23 01:00, bctill wrote:
> On 2023-04-03 22:23, Jeremy Van Veelen wrote:
>> Bernie,
>>
>> Have you considered Haiku, it’s a free BeOS and it sounds like it
>> has that single user mode gui you may be looking for.
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 10:07 PM bctill <bctill at ece.uvic.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-04-03 17:42, Peter Willis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi BCLUG --
>>>>>
>>>>> "especially if one considers a lot of the applications as users,
>>> since
>>>>> having their own user & group allows for the file permissions"
>>>>>
>>>>> What an interestng way of looking at it...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Try `man sudoers` for details"
>>>>>
>>>>> And that's even more interesting.  Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> -- Bernie.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It should also be noted that new users, added  to your system, are
>>> not
>>>> automatically added to the 'sudo' group.
>>>>
>>>> Hence new users will not have sudo access to your system unless
>>>> specifically given those rights by an admin (you).
>>>>
>>>> MS Windows also has multiuser and not all users added to that are
>>>> admins either.
>>>> So no difference really.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Hi Peter --
>>>
>>> Yes, you're right, but I never had more than one user on my XP
>>> system,
>>> never set a password, and never used a login screen.  None of this
>>> ever
>>> caused a problem.
>>>
>>> Truth be told, there were a number of accounts on the machine, but I
>>>
>>> disabled all of them except Administrator, Default User (namely,
>>> me),
>>> and a dummy user that Visual Studio created to run some of the
>>> enterprise-edition development tools.  Once I figured out how to
>>> give
>>> admin powers to the default user, I never used the Administrator
>>> account
>>> again.
>>>
>>> One of the few things I disliked about XP was the way it presented
>>> the
>>> desktop as though it was the root of everything else on the machine,
>>>
>>> when actually it was just an awkwardly-named directory buried deep
>>> in
>>> the tree.  I never used My Documents or any of the "standard"
>>> subdirectories of the desktop because it made me feel disoriented.
>>>
>>> I thought of my directory structure not as a tree but as a forest,
>>> in
>>> which the trees were called A:\, B:\, and so on.  The number of disk
>>>
>>> drives eventually increased to 14, and of course each one had its
>>> own
>>> root directory.
>>>
>>> Everything I installed was installed for "all users", because I knew
>>>
>>> that there would only ever be one.  This enormously simplified
>>> system
>>> administration and registry maintenance, which resulted in
>>> extraordinary
>>> system stability.  I ran that system 24/365 for more than two
>>> decades,
>>> and never had to turn it off except to work on the hardware.
>>>
>>> Sadly, that system had to be retired because no one writes drivers
>>> for
>>> it anymore, or maintains the applications that run on it. Therefore
>>> I
>>> can no longer migrate it to newer hardware, or maintain
>>> compatibility
>>> with newer file formats or protocols.
>>>
>>> Hence, I am now looking to feret out the best practices that will
>>> allow
>>> me to create a similarly simple, stable and reliable environment
>>> under
>>> Linux.
>>>
>>> I'm also looking to configure something really lean and hard, not
>>> unlike
>>> Alpine or BunsenLabs, on which to run a web server, an email stack,
>>> and
>>> a deep-packet-inspecting firewall... not all on the same physical
>>> machine, of course.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -- Bernie.
>>>
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> Hi Jeremy --
>
> BeOS looks interesting, but it seems like too much of an orphan. I 
> might end up painting myself into a corner if I go that route.
>
> The same might be true of Alpine, but BunsenLabs is Debian fork that 
> weighs in very light, though not as light as Alpine.
>
> BunsenLabs is a follow-on from CrunchBang, which was very well 
> regarded, while it lasted.
>
> For now I'm on Ubuntu, which I regret, but I think what makes the most 
> sense is to stay here until I finish learning how to compile a 
> complete Linux system from source.  By then, I may have dragged myself 
> far enough up this learning curve to make an informed decision about 
> which distro(s) to base the rest of my project on.
>
> It's still early days, but I think I'm leaning towards Devuan for the 
> workstation and BunsenLabs for the server.
>
> Once I've done that, I may be able to cut out the middlemen and pull 
> packages down directly from Debian in source form and compile with one 
> set of parameters to produce the workstation, and another set of 
> parameters to produce the server.
>
> I don't know.  All that may be way too ambitious or impractical, but 
> the only way to find out is to take the first step, and then the next, 
> and continue until I'm done or hit a brick wall, whichever comes first...
>
> Regards,
> -- Bernie.
>
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