[Discuss] getting seriously into Linux

[George Farris]

Greetings,

Also take a look at Arch is a very nice system now.  Basically you end
up with a minimal install and do everything by hand but it does have a
great package system.

You can also go with Manjaro to get a fully working Arch system in a
complete desktop and Manjaro is arch but with a delay of about 30 days
on the packages to help make it smoother.  I have moved away from Debian
and buntu's because Arch keeps me completely up to date, it's a full
rolling distro and much much smoother than it was a few years ago.

For an interesting take on it watch this:

http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/38086/the-arch-way-aas-s27e03/


George


On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 00:51 -0800, Noel Burton-Krahn wrote:
> Hi Bernie,
> 
> 
> You're nuts.  But, if you really like to know that all your code is
> compiled from scratch, check out Gentoo or
> other http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Source-based_Linux_distributions
> 
> 
> --
> Noel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Bernie C. Till <bctill at ece.uvic.ca>
> wrote:
>         Hello --
>         
>         My name is Bernie Till, and I'm interested in getting
>         seriously into Linux,
>         so I wanted to get to know some local people who have
>         knowledge of, and
>         experience with, various Linux distros, in addition to the art
>         of compiling
>         and installing Linux from scratch, as well as the practical
>         aspects of
>         co-located internetworking.  Yes, I have a lot to learn, which
>         is why I am
>         here.
>         
>         My plan is to buy a machine, without operating system, and
>         install a
>         standard Linux distro, like Debian or Ubuntu on it.  I will
>         then assemble a
>         second machine from components.  Using the first machine as a
>         platform to
>         work from, I will download and compile everything that I load
>         onto the
>         second machine.
>         
>         The goal is that the second machine should be running nothing
>         that wasn't
>         compiled by me, and should be configured with an absolutely
>         minimal "attack
>         surface" so it can be connected to the internet 24/7 with some
>         hope of being
>         secure.
>         
>         The combination of strengths and weaknesses I bring to this
>         endeavour is a
>         bit unusual.  I have a degree in computer science, I am
>         comfortable in C,
>         C++, and assembler, I have taught operating systems internals,
>         and I have
>         designed and implemented real-time systems including real-time
>         kernels.  I
>         actually extended the Linux hotplug system for a client once
>         upon a time,
>         but the development environment (GCC, Eclypse, Ubuntu) was set
>         up for me by
>         the client's sysadmin.  I am a complete novice when it comes
>         to networking.
>         
>         What I'm looking for initially is some advice on how to get
>         started.  What
>         distros do you recommend for each of the two machines, what
>         hardware and
>         software components are necessary, what ones are desirable,
>         what should be
>         avoided, and how would you proceed with the plan I've
>         outlined?  Any advice
>         about how to run a co-located server (not restricted only to
>         the www) would
>         be invaluable, as would recommendations for co-location
>         companies in
>         Victoria.
>         
>         Also, I'm hoping to draw on the community's base of practice
>         and experience
>         when I run into weird error messages that have no right to
>         exist, and when I
>         try to make sense of documentation that assumes familiarity
>         with a culture
>         that I haven't yet had time to assimilate.
>         
>         So... if you're willing to help me out with any of this, I
>         would love to
>         hear from you.
>         
>         Regards,
>         -- Bernie.
>         
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